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Mods of 2004
After 2 months, 8 thousand votes and 1.4 million mod profile visitors, the 2004 Golden Spanner Mod of the Year Awards have been decided, by you the visitors and gamers who know best. Read on for the results...
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I was so pumped for this mod in the days, this looked so good.
Look a awesome MOD ^^
This is a disaster. No, not what I see here. It's a disaster, a complete disaster how a team of talented people did such an unimaginably stupid decision and go over to Source. Your content here was just astounding, but you guys had to throw ALL of that in the trash just because you obviously had no idea what you're doing. I believe this is the reason why the Source mod died too. They probably realised how much of fail, aids and diabeetus Source is, and the team bailed, so there was no hope in going back to GoldSrc.
I have been mapping a little bit for Source, just a little bit, but it was more than enough. Valve became careless as **** after they could update their stuff with Steam. The last time I have opened Hammer up, it was full of bugs and looked like crap.
GoldSrc modding is fun because it's polished, and it's simple. Valve lost all comprehension of bugtesting and polishing after Steam came up, and they completely frakked up programming too.
The creation of mods became dull and boring with all the over-complicated **** that was made into the Source SDK, and it became a living nightmare after Valve stopped debugging their damn updates. How many times have we been unable to use the SDK tools because of an update? When did people stop counting?
I only programmed a weapon for Source once, and it worked. However, that was also the last time I had ever dared touch that thing again. They simply frakked the whole thing up beyond any reasoning, and I couldn't do anything, because the bug that caused sounds not to play was impossible to find.
IMHO: GoldSource > Source
Morshu, you really shouldn't talk about things you don't understand. The reason the mod collapsed was due to the fact that work had to be restarted.
Also HL1 modding is neither "polished" nor "fun", it's an incredibly difficult engine to work with unless if you have low expectations. Source is much easier to work with than HL1.
Bull **** GoldSource is easier I created a custom game first map and models in 1 day. **** Source
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It may be easier to create content on the HL1 engine, but it looks like crap in every way...
So...**** Goldsrc!
It was a dumb decision to switch engines (à la Daikatana or DNF) and a gigantic waste of everyone's time.
Seems to me like you're the one who doesn't understand either GoldSource or Source, or both. It's obvious that work had to be restarted, but I believe it wasn't the only cause of the mod's failure on Source. It's explained well here, and in my own blog.
And seriously, compared to the **** work Valve is doing on Source, you could hardly say it's anything close to polished, compared to GoldSource. I've been working with GoldSrc for a long time, and all I needed was my mapping skill and some special entities to optimize on stuff to get it working. The only thing that limits me is really just the 64 lightmap limit and the map size, however with Source, the constant bugs make it almost unusable, and the community doesn't help either. Just check my work on my profile.
Anyway, isn't modding supposed to be about fun? If someone is so bound on giving out commercial-quality games, then he doesn't belong in the modding community. Modding was a thing for us when we were little kids or just touched Hammer. Our mapping quality would be considered horrible today, but it was a start.
I mapped for Goldsource for around 4 years before finally switching to Source, so I think I stand in a pretty good position to say that Source is of course better. Every single person I know who thinks Goldsource is better (all 3 of them) has barely given Source modding a chance what-so-ever. Yes it's more complicated to produce something worth a damn, but that's because what you can produce is a hundredfold times better than Goldsource. I recently went back to Goldsource for nostalgia's sake and found no room to be creative at all. It was a fantastic engine back in its prime, and if people prefer modding it than modding a more up-to-date engine then that's fine. Let them have their fun and look on as a whole ten people play their hard work.
What I can't stand is people who actually have the nerve to say Goldsource is BETTER than Source. What could you possibly be basing that on? In what remote sense is it better?
And as for the SDK being buggy, in the early days of Hammer 4 it crashed a lot, but it literally hasn't crashed on me in around 2 years. And I've never not been able to use the SDK.
Stop being daft.
This was mainly aimed at Morshu, by the way.
You know i'm starting to think black mesa will end up in the same boat as this.